Quoting such celebrated Greek scholars as Herodotus, Hippocrates, Aristotle, Thales, and Pythagoras, who admit to the influence of Egyptian studies in their work, this edition sheds new light on traditional philosophical and historical thought. Several of these were well aware that what Dr. James also alleges that Aristotle's theory of matter was taken from the so-called Memphite Theology. As a classicist, I may overemphasize the achievement of the Greeks because I do not know enough about the rest of the Mediterranean world; Egyptologists may be inclined to make the same mistake in the opposite direction. It is completely different from Aristotle's abstract consideration of the nature of the soul. The majority of pages are undamaged with minimal creasing or tearing, minimal pencil underlining of text, no highlighting of text, no writing in margins. Homer, the first Greek writer of the Iliad spent 7 years in Africa studying law, philosophy, religion, astronomy and physics.
Fuller, and Frank Thilly agree with them, while Alexander places it at 450 B. Since Socrates was an Athenian citizen, his parents must have been Athenians, as he himself says they were. It also suggests that African-Americans need to learn only what they choose to believe about the past. This situation has rightly aroused the suspicion of the world, as it questions the source of these scientific works. At least compare the arguments as any scholar should. From the sixth century B. These funerary texts, which the Egyptians themselves called the Book of Coming Forth by Day, are designed to protect the soul during its dangerous journey through Duat, the Egyptian underworld, on its way to life of bliss in the Field of Reeds.
If you have anything else to add I'd be happy to continue the discussion. In like manner we are informed that Heraclitus 530 B. A lecture at which serious questions could not be asked, and in fact were greeted with hostility -- the occasion seemed more like a political rally than an academic event. For authors dating from the fourth century and earlier, ancient biographers were compelled to use as their principal source material the author's own works. Yeah, that podcast is very good and presented by an Egyptologist from New Zealand.
There is no wonder then, that the production of the unusually large number of books ascribed to Aristotle has proved a physical impossibility, for any single man within a lifetime. What was the source of the data of the histories of these sciences, which must have taken any nation thousands of years to develop? Alexander and Tennemann place it at 490 B. Ordinarily, if someone has a theory which involves a radical departure from what the experts have professed, he is expected to defend his position by providing evidence in its support. In her surviving portraits on coins and in sculpture she appears to be impressive rather than beautiful, Mediterranean in appearance, with straight hair and a hooked nose. Instead, Plato's notion of the Egyptians remains similar to that of other Athenians; he did not so much change the Athenian notion of Egyptian culture as enrich and idealize it, so that it could provide a dramatic and instructive contrast with Athenian customs in his dialogues. Not Out of Africa is an important book that protec ts and argues for the necessity of historical truths and standards in cultural education. Here is the thing though: The 'outside source' you report on has made a claim; the onus is on them to prove that claim.
I was wondering what kind of legitimacy this claim has. I just haven't seen enough crossover - that doesn't mean it didn't happen though, and no doubt there is more to be learned. Under such circumstances they kept no records of their activities and this was done in order to conceal their identity. Although now completely forgotten, the novel was widely read in the eighteenth century. Since he did not know Egyptian, his informants could have been Greeks living in the Greek colony of Naucratis in the Nile Delta, or Egyptians who knew some Greek.
Rather, he was an extreme Afrocentrist, author of many books describing how Greek civilization was stolen from Africa, how Aristotle robbed the library of Alexandria, and how the true Jews are Africans like himself. For this reason, the so-called Greek philosophy is stolen Egyptian philosophy, which first spread to Ionia, thence to Italy and thence to Athens. Unfortunately, very few scholars have expertise in both. That's what my buddy seems to be doing and not really backing much of it up. Rogers at early in the sixth century B.
Good as the myths they were hearing may have made these students feel, so long as they never left the Afrocentric environment in which they were being nurtured and sheltered, they were being systematically deprived of the most important features of a university education. The famed of the Greek philosophers themselves attest to their schooling in Egypt as their source of philosophical prowess. Her first language was Greek; but she was also the first member of the Ptolemaic line who was able to speak Egyptian. After she had taken my course, the student pursued the question on her own, and was satisfied that I had been telling her the truth: so far as we know, Socrates was ethnically no different from other Athenians. The dust jacket for hard covers may not be included. As it is, he can only come up with a vague similarity between two titles.
But no one seemed to think it was appropriate to ask for evidence from the instructors who claimed that the Greeks stole their philosophy from Egypt. The Chronology of Greek Philosophers Is Mere Speculation. What had this student learned in her course in Afro-American studies? In fact, in order to construct his argument, James overlooked or ignored much existing evidence. We are also told that Thales 640 B. But, second, I would just like to say the I don't think Western Society realizes how connected the ancient world was. The teaching was graded and delivered orally to the neophyte: and under these circumstances of secrecy, the Egyptians developed secret systems of writing and teaching, and forbade their Initiates from writing what they had learned.